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I am looking for a paid soccer tipping service

Postby michaelh27 » Sun Nov 27, 2011 11:47 am

I am looking for a paid soccer tipping service with a good strike rate and ROI

So if you know one let me know

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Postby cartex » Sun Nov 27, 2011 12:26 pm

Hi,

I haven't tried this guys, but their stats look promising. Look around the internet and try to find some reviews before you join.
You are also able to get a 7 day free trial

http://www.betadvisor.com/

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Re: I am looking for a paid soccer tipping service

Postby Raiden » Sun Nov 27, 2011 7:03 pm

You should really be careful!

Still, you should have a look at http://www.moremoneyreview.com
Their reviews and user comments will help you avoid scam.

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Re: I am looking for a paid soccer tipping service

Postby conny » Sat Dec 31, 2011 11:01 am

michaelh27 wrote:I am looking for a paid soccer tipping service with a good strike rate and ROI

So if you know one let me know

Hi Michael

Here is links to a tipping service I am trialing right now. The trial is to 27 Jan 2012. The results last months seems to be good.
It is recommended to double the stake after a loss. It seems to be rare with more than 2 losses in a row with soccer tipping service. The same rule with roulette.
http://winningmore.com/selfootballmembers/
http://www.winningmore.com/xmas2011/

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Re: I am looking for a paid soccer tipping service

Postby cartex » Sat Dec 31, 2011 2:00 pm

Dounling the stake is not a big deal sinve some of us here increase the stakes by 3x, 4x inital stake per bet.....but roulette doubling never works. I can guarantee that

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Re: I am looking for a paid soccer tipping service

Postby conny » Sat Dec 31, 2011 4:13 pm

Hi Cartex

Doubling the initial stake is a big deal with the above tipping service if the odds is below 2.0 as it use to be. The odds in todays selection Middlesborough - Peteresborough is 1.67 The strike rate since Okt 2011 is high. Let me quote them: "...at present it is at 82%, with and average of £2.21 dividend ( 5/4).
We recommend level staking, as it shows nice profit like this."

Doubling the stake with this roulette system also seems to be a big deal. We only submit a bet when the win chance is about 95-98%. I have not used it yet but the numbers speaks for them selves. They advice people to stop after a win. They say people will lose sooner or later if they continue after a win.
The only problem with it seems to be it is not all-automatic. They ask if anybody know how to automate it with a bot. They have the successful system but don´t know how to make it all-automatic. (Perhaps Rade know how to do it?)

EDIT 16:50. In addition to the above I want to tell about a email I got from them today. It is about "5 good trading methods for Football,"
The link is http://www.soccerbettinghq.com/

The match Middlesbrough-Petersborough ended 1-1. It is the second loss in a row for me. I will double the stake once again tomorrow. Since the tip service started in 1 okt it have not been 3 losses in a row yet. I am prepared to take three losses in a row if needed. The tip for tomorrow is "Blue Sq Prem: Luton & Wrexham (Double) 8/11(1.72)".

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Re: I am looking for a paid soccer tipping service

Postby cartex » Sun Jan 01, 2012 12:57 pm

conny,
I saw his prices. Do you really think its worth all that money? when you on average only make $2-3 per $100 bet when not doubling up. If their stats are true :roll:
Even I do better then that without any tipping service and I believe you can also do it if you put some self interest into soccer

also his records seems bogus

you can find hundreds of ebooks like this on torrent

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Re: I am looking for a paid soccer tipping service

Postby conny » Sun Jan 01, 2012 5:21 pm

cartex wrote:Even I do better then that without any tipping service and I believe you can also do it if you put some self interest into soccer

Hi Cartex

That tipping service have a SR of 82% the last months and is advocating level staking. That should suit you. Let Steve Davidson do the digging while you do something else more interesting than formreading etc. He is perhaps more interested in digging than we are. Lets pay him for it.
You say, "Even I do better then that without any tipping servic". How much better is your SR? You don´t need better SR with level staking. You only need to raise the stake if you want more profit.
Michaelh asked for "a paid soccer tipping service with a good strike rate and ROI". This tipping service seems to be a good choise if you don´t have time, interest, energy or ability. Digging can be too hard for us.
The match Wrexham-Telford is right now 2-0 after 71 min and it seems as the record max 2 losses in a row remaines. That is good for us that follow the advice to double the stake after a loss. A good SR is a must with recovery.

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Re: I am looking for a paid soccer tipping service

Postby cartex » Sun Jan 01, 2012 5:51 pm

Just do me a favour, go through his records and strike rate and do a calculation. You will end up with a loss after commisson.

qestions,
why is he showing such a small record of bets from betfair?
compared his stats to the strike rate?
most of them end in a loss

conny wrote:You say, "Even I do better then that without any tipping servic". How much better is your SR? You don´t need better SR with level staking. You only need to raise the stake if you want more profit.
Michaelh asked for "a paid soccer tipping service with a good strike rate and ROI".


higher strike rate doesn't always mean more profits
I didn't say higher strike rate was needed, i only got 55-58% strike rate but the year 2011 gave me a marginal rate of return at approx. 1100% with level stake betting

Btw what is Michaelh's ROI?

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Re: I am looking for a paid soccer tipping service

Postby conny » Sun Jan 01, 2012 6:32 pm

cartex wrote:i only got 55-58% strike rate but the year 2011 gave me a marginal rate of return at approx. 1100% with level stake betting

Hi Cartex

With a SR of 55-58% it is understandable that you are using level staking instead of recovery. I should also do that if I were you. Keep doing what you are doing as long as you have interest and are successful with perhaps high odds favs.
Steve Davidssons tipping service seems to concentrate on low odds favs (an average of 2.21). It is less profitable but also less risky.
Regarding his statistic I take him on his words. He have showed the results day by day in months and all members can follow it day by day and see if he is lying or not.
Wrexham-Telford ended 4-0 - a happy end for all double-stake-after-loss friends.

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Re: I am looking for a paid soccer tipping service

Postby cartex » Sun Jan 01, 2012 8:17 pm

It is clear that you do not know anything about soccer betting. GL 2 U

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Re: I am looking for a paid soccer tipping service

Postby conny » Sun Jan 01, 2012 8:34 pm

If so, it is good to rely on someone that knows much more about soccer and betting in genearal than both you and I.
Steve Davidsson is a lökomotive with many trains behind. I will perhaps jump on the soccer train after trial period if I can´t figure out how he does it and try do do it even better than him.

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Re: I am looking for a paid soccer tipping service

Postby cartex » Sun Jan 01, 2012 8:39 pm

conny wrote:If so, it is good to rely on someone that knows much more about soccer and betting in genearal than both you and I.
Steve Davidsson is a lökomotive with many trains behind. I will perhaps jump on the soccer train after trial period if I can´t figure out how he does it and try do do it even better than him.


hahahahaha....he is definetly much much better than you, I agree. But don't include me in there.

I don't know how good your match skills are but at level stakes his systems all together give an overall loss of approx 15 per 100 before commisson from winnings are taken into account. Just keep that in mind.

I wish you all the best with that

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Re: I am looking for a paid soccer tipping service

Postby conny » Sat Jan 07, 2012 3:03 pm

Hi

I got following email from Steve Davidson today. The selections is made by someone else than him.

Hi Conny,

Firstly, let me apologise for the recent poor form of the selections.

Like in the Football world, I have sacked the guy supplying the selections, as I can not continue to send out such
poor results.

I am going back to my main Football guy, I have been with for over 5 years.

Please note, these selections include lay bets.

SELECT FOOTBALL:

Todays Bets (ALL LAY BETS):
FA CUP: Birmingham v Wolves LAY Birmingham
Spain: LAY Atl Madrid
Spain: LAY Sienna

Tomorrow:
FA Cup: Man City v Man Utd (Both teams to Score) 4/6

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Re: I am looking for a paid soccer tipping service

Postby cartex » Sat Jan 07, 2012 7:17 pm

Conny,
the ultimate way to profit in sports is by betting on value bets, its slow but the most secure way if applied correctly ;)

ps...I don't believe that bullshit he is telling, why would someone else give him their picks when they could have sold them by themselves. :roll:

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Re: I am looking for a paid soccer tipping service

Postby cartex » Sat Jan 07, 2012 10:34 pm

Conny,
I really recommmend you to learn about valuebetting and start trying that....its awesome.
Read on many different places so that you get all those different perspectives.
Then you will see that your account with get a great inflow with money ;)

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Re: I am looking for a paid soccer tipping service

Postby conny » Sun Jan 08, 2012 1:16 am

Hi Cartex

Thanks for the advice. I don´t think digging after value bets is something for me right now. I am more interested in value bots and value systems. I have not given up on successful all-automatic trading.
Are you still interested in digging - not just for yourself, even for others?

PS. It is a problem when races starts before the scheduled time. At least Turfway had this problem at one time.The bot gets too little time to get the second bet matched as we see in the screenshot. I am starting betting 30 sec before start. I hope it will be good even on the dog markets. Happy greening up.
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Re: I am looking for a paid soccer tipping service

Postby wiltsu » Sun Jan 08, 2012 2:05 pm

Cartex, what kind of value betting you are doing? Are you estimating your odds by yourself or do you use odds comparisons?

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Re: I am looking for a paid soccer tipping service

Postby cartex » Sun Jan 08, 2012 2:09 pm

wiltsu wrote:Cartex, what kind of value betting you are doing? Are you estimating your odds by yourself or do you use odds comparisons?


I use odds comparison to estimate the odds value and decide to bet or not.
At the moment I disregard form reading and stats and do my betting based on the odds offered. Working well so far last couple of months
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Re: I am looking for a paid soccer tipping service

Postby cartex » Sun Jan 08, 2012 2:11 pm

Sometimes I get frustrated losing 10-15 bets a row, but then I hit good and are back on track. Hope it stays that way ;)

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Re: I am looking for a paid soccer tipping service

Postby wiltsu » Sun Jan 08, 2012 2:52 pm

How many bets you bet in one month?

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Re: I am looking for a paid soccer tipping service

Postby cartex » Sun Jan 08, 2012 3:04 pm

It depends...maybe between 100 - 150 bets per week, sometimes even more.

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Re: I am looking for a paid soccer tipping service

Postby conny » Sun Jan 08, 2012 4:14 pm

Hi Cartex

Here is a link to a paid tipping service with a better SR than you seems to have. It is called SaturdayLays and is laying short favs on UK horse racing only.
http://www.theracinginvestmentgroup.com/blog/
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0Ams8txMHIlGXdGJQYWZNUHRSMVhFX0phUThvLWtvLVE#gid=0

Here is a excerpt from a email I got from Kris Jackman at last friday with SaturdayLays tips for last saturday (yesterday). It explains briefly what it is all about. I am telling this not only for you, also for all other forum members.

Hi,

Welcome to the first SaturdayLays of 2012.

Let's hope it is as profitable as 2011.

Onto this week's qualifiers.

Not every race on a Saturday qualifies for the system. I have
included the qualifying races below.

Not every horse within the qualifying races qualify so I
have listed the ones that do.

Remember there will only ever be one selection per race as
we are laying the clear favourite only.

There are 2 rules that must be followed whichever staking
plan you are following...

1. We only lay a potential qualifier if it starts the race as
clear favourite.

2. We only lay a potential qualifier if there are between 8 and 19
runners (inclusive) in the race.

If you are following the Percentage Recovery staking plan I
strongly recommend also following a third rule..

3. We only lay a potential qualifier if it has a Starting Price of
9/2 or less.

I hope that's all clear. I know we had a few new subscribers
last week who were a little confused, so I hope everything's
clear now.

If not just shoot me an email and I'll clear up any problems
you may have.

Below are the qualifying races and the potential qualifying
horses within those races...


Sandown Park 14:05

All For Free
Tanks For That
Rileyev
Hold Fast
King Edmund
Dave's Dream
Darceys Dancer
Nomecheki


Lingfield Park 14:45

Oasis Dancer
Capone
Fratellino
Googlette
Colonel Mak
Malcheek
Seek The Fair Land
Norville
Elna Bright
Piscean
Five Star Junior


Sandown Park 15:10

Master Of The Hall
The Knoxs
Hold On Julio
Neptune Collonges
Exmoor Ranger
Wymott
The Panama Kid
Be There In Five


Wincanton 15:25

So Fine
No Loose Change
Gallox Bridge
Chain Of Command
Nobunaga
Buckie Boy
Star of Angels
Numide
Non Dom
The Pier


Sandown Park 15:45

Alarazi
I'm So Lucky
Afsoun
Abbevillian
Lucaindubai
Cotillion
Attaglance
Heathcote
Synthe Davis
Ciceron
Sacrilege

To automate the betting process I highly recommend The Bet Engine
software.

I've managed to get my subscribers an extended 10 day free
trial so you can try it out without it costing you a penny...

http://www.thebetengine.co.uk/affiliate ... EzAGQ7ckA=


It will automatically place the bets for you and you can even
include the Starting Price rule as well.


Good luck
Kris


But if I understand it right you are betting mosty on soccer and American sports. If the later, here is a link to a free trial until 24 Jan 2012.
http://www.statesidesportspro.com/
I got the tip from Kris Jackman in a email. Here is a excerp from that email.

Happy New Year!

I have a cracking free trial for you to kick off 2012.

Check it out here


It comes from Cory Daniels who's an expert on betting on
American Sports.

For the second half of last year I trialed his American
football and ice hockey picks and the results were
phenomenal.

Using advised stakes (a conservative 3% of the betting bank)
the American football picks turned a £1,000 betting bank into
£4,421.61.

The hockey picks did even better and turned a £1,000 betting
bank into £5,217.03.

I don't use the word very often to describe services but
those results (in just 6 months remember) really are
phenomenal.

Cory's giving away a free three week trial for his picks and
I would highly advise signing up.

Sign up here


Wishing you a profitable 2012,
Kris


For some people it can be a good idea to stop digging and jump on a tipping train instead with a good lokomotive.
The reason don´t need to be that we have a depressing SR in tipping. It can be other reasons as lack of time, interest, energy etc.

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Re: I am looking for a paid soccer tipping service

Postby cartex » Sun Jan 08, 2012 5:11 pm

conny wrote:Hi Cartex

Here is a link to a paid tipping service with a better SR than you seems to have.

But if I understand it right you are betting mosty on soccer and American sports. If the later, here is a link to a free trial until 24 Jan 2012.
http://www.statesidesportspro.com/
I got the tip from Kris Jackman in a email. Here is a excerp from that email.

For the second half of last year I trialed his American
football and ice hockey picks and the results were
phenomenal.

Using advised stakes (a conservative 3% of the betting bank)
the American football picks turned a £1,000 betting bank into
£4,421.61.

The hockey picks did even better and turned a £1,000 betting
bank into £5,217.03.

I don't use the word very often to describe services but
those results (in just 6 months remember) really are
phenomenal.

For some people it can be a good idea to stop digging and jump on a tipping train instead with a good lokomotive.
The reason don´t need to be that we have a depressing SR in tipping. It can be other reasons as lack of time, interest, energy etc.


Hehehe....like I said before strike rate is not important.

People with "lack of time, interest, energy etc." should stay a way from betting and rather buy a lottery ticket every week and hope to win instead like all other people.

That guy doesn't impress me at all. I don't want to depend on other when I can do it myself. I did better than him last year

Going awesome now too, already almost doubled my deposit this year :D

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Re: I am looking for a paid soccer tipping service

Postby cartex » Mon Jan 09, 2012 1:38 am

Conny,
I just read a couple of articles now that value bets are not something for everybody, if everybody understood it then all bookies would have gone bankrupt and shut down. You better finish your trial and if thats good then just continue there instead of trying this, ;)

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