Strange Loss Recovery?

[kronner]

Hi Rade,

backing 3 favs, 0,50€ stakes with comission and

Loss Pot Recovery: 100%
Losses in Loss Pot: 300
Loss amount to recover: 100%
Type of Loss Recovery: Grouped
Recover only overall market loss ON

cant understand these recovery.. still have money in loss pot to recover, when i have 100% on settings.. Why doesnt it recover all in the next bet?



can you help me?

Regards

[cartex]

every bet is trying to revoer the losee, its the muliple selection that prevents it
if total loss is $1 and odds is 5.00
each bet will try to recover $1

So if you win the profit will be $1 from one winning bet minus the stake on those 2 losing bets

cartex

[mcbee]

hi
for every 3 bets, you will always have 2 or 3 losing bets.
with muliple bets you will never recover 100% of your losses.
you can only make the lost amount less.


mcbee

[kronner]

Trying to recover 1,59€ (17:22) + 3,00€ ( 17:33) = 4,59€

17:47

2.07€ odd 4.1 WIN 6.43€
1.82€ odd 4.7 LOSS -1.82€
1.63€ odd 5.27 LOSS -1.63€

6.43€ - 0,53€ (stake+comission) = 5.9€

why did it try to recover 5.9€ if the loss iss 4.59€?

[kronner]

every bet is trying to revoer the losee, its the muliple selection that prevents it
if total loss is $1 and odds is 5.00
each bet will try to recover $1

So if you win the profit will be $1 from one winning bet minus the stake on those 2 losing bets

cartex

hi cartex,

The tutorial says something different (look above).

That, in the tutorial, doesn't make any sense, because if i want to recover 100% he is only recovering 1/3 of the loss, because only 1 dog can win lol so i'll always lose the 2/3 of the loss again! :\

Besides i'll never recover all the loss, because only 1 dog can win, I would prefer what u said, each dog recovers all the loss, instead, the other 2 dogs will lose.. :\ its hard to know what's best for recovering

Any help?

[Rade]

Hi,

This was explained few times.

You cannot recover all losses when using Back bets and Grouped recovery. New losses will keep happening and bot will not be able to recover them.

However, you can try using overall market loss recovery and Back bets. This can recover all losses, but still it is not 100% efficient.

Best way to recover losses when using Back bets on multiple runners is to use Dutching bot and overall loss recovery. That bot will recovery loss properly, because it calculates stakes on each selection so that you win target amount if one of the runners wins. Be careful, stakes in such case can go up very quickly in case of 2-3 losing markets.

Regards,
Rade

[kronner]

Thanks for the reply Rade,

i did understand that is not possible to recover all the losses because there's always 2 dogs that lose..

but the bot, like u write in the tutorial, didnt bet 1,53€ (4,59€/3 runners) at each dog plus the stake..

17:47

2.07€ odd 4.1 WIN 6.43€
1.82€ odd 4.7 LOSS -1.82€
1.63€ odd 5.27 LOSS -1.63€

something wrong?

[Rade]

Actual bet size is made of following elements:
1. stake
2. loss recovery
3. commission

Actual bet size = stake + loss recovery + commission

If bet type is Back and odds are 3.0 and amount to recover is 10.0 then loss recovery part will be 5.0
If bet type is Back and odds are 4.0 and amount to recover is 10.0 then loss recovery part will be 3.34

In your example you can see that total stake is smaller as odds get higher, because less money is needed to recover target loss recovery amount.

You should always and only check Bets History form and column "Loss Recovery" to see size that was used to recover lost amount.

Loss recovery has been tested a lot since it was published and since last modification, I am pretty sure that it is working well. Usually stake and other settings confuse users that increase stake size.

Regards,
Rade